View Full Version : If someone broke into your home.....
Michele
10-04-2004, 12:44 PM
and had cut your phone line, what would you do? Do you believe you have the right to kill an intruder? Would you? Or would you use reason first?
GracieMae
10-04-2004, 01:02 PM
I would do whatever I had to do to protect my children. I do not want to kill another human being but that's the risk they take when they break into my home.
If my phone line was cut I would use my cell phone to call 911 and attempt to get my children out of the house or to safety. A direct confrentation would be a last resort.
SouthernJen
10-04-2004, 01:16 PM
I don't have a cell phone, so I would use my butcher knife to stab them in the throat, and then grab my son and run like hell to the neighbors. If I felt like my or my family's life was in danger, then yes I would kill them. I would attempt to just disable them at first but if the situation became more serious then yes murder would be an option. I would certainly kill to protect my family and think that most people feel this way.
George1
10-04-2004, 01:31 PM
I don't have a cell phone, so I would use my butcher knife to stab them in the throat, and then grab my son and run like hell to the neighbors.
"Ma'am? Ma'am? I'm here from the hurricane warning crew. You know, you really should evacuate, all the telephone lines across this whole block are already down with the wind, and I knocked but no one answered the door, I guess you couldn't hear with the wind howling and all....
Aarggh!
Acghh... Acghh... Kech... Kech..."
:)
kingclick
10-04-2004, 04:21 PM
and had cut your phone line, what would you do? Do you believe you have the right to kill an intruder? Would you? Or would you use reason first?
Depends on what kind of weapon they are carrying. If they are carrying a knife. I would pull my "gun" on them.
Beelzebub
10-04-2004, 04:38 PM
I would ask him to leave, if he did not comply with my request I would murder him.
Afterall rules 4 11 state;
"If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy."
"When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him."
I would do whatever I had to do to protect my children. I do not want to kill another human being but that's the risk they take when they break into my home.
If my phone line was cut I would use my cell phone to call 911 and attempt to get my children out of the house or to safety. A direct confrentation would be a last resort.
ITA with Gracie.
Mabel
10-04-2004, 06:01 PM
A direct confrontation would be the LAST thing I would want to do - including trying to kill them. While the law SHOULD be on my side, I wouldn't want to risk that. I wouldn't want to take a life, as I don't feel it is my place, but if it was my only option - then yes, I would.
Get OUT! IF that didn't work, the next sound you would hear would be the gun going off, and brains splattering on the wall.
I would ask him to leave, if he did not comply with my request I would murder him.
Afterall rules 4 11 state;
"If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy."
"When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him."
what the hell rulebook are you reading out of (rule 4 11)???
and
its not murder , its called self-defense
Demona
10-04-2004, 07:15 PM
what the hell rulebook are you reading out of (rule 4 11)???
and
its not murder , its called self-defense
It is still murder (at least in Britain) if the action is out of proportion to the situation. You don't have to kill someone to stop them killing you - a shot in the leg or the shoulder will prevent them doing harm. If you're not experienced enough with a gun to count on precision, you may be justified in a chest shot, but then only if they were actually coming towards you or threatening you, not for simply being in the house.
Ideally, I would ask them to leave, and if my request were not complied with I would phone the police. Any attempt to interfere with the action would result in only enough defense to render the intruder incapable of harm or other criminal activity. Of course, in the heat of the situation it can be difficult to make such rational calculations, but I certainly wouldn't knowingly land a killing blow. I doubt I would be allowed to own a gun in Britain, and I have no desire to.
It is still murder (at least in Britain) if the action is out of proportion to the situation. You don't have to kill someone to stop them killing you - a shot in the leg or the shoulder will prevent them doing harm. If you're not experienced enough with a gun to count on precision, you may be justified in a chest shot, but then only if they were actually coming towards you or threatening you, not for simply being in the house.
Ideally, I would ask them to leave, and if my request were not complied with I would phone the police. Any attempt to interfere with the action would result in only enough defense to render the intruder incapable of harm or other criminal activity. Of course, in the heat of the situation it can be difficult to make such rational calculations, but I certainly wouldn't knowingly land a killing blow. I doubt I would be allowed to own a gun in Britain, and I have no desire to.
they already said your phone lines have been cut, so you cant call
and your going to ask him nicely to leave as he is advancing on you to kill your family
hmmmm
I would shooot them many times so its only my word against his when the cops come
DayDreamer
10-04-2004, 07:27 PM
Yeah, that works.
Get OUT! IF that didn't work, the next sound you would hear would be the gun going off, and brains splattering on the wall.
OnederWoman
10-04-2004, 07:27 PM
what the hell rulebook are you reading out of (rule 4 11)??? Anton LaVey's 11 Satanic Rules for the Earth, is I think the correct title. LaVey was the founder of the official religion of "Satanism". Not the occultic offshoots, but the official church of Satan. Am I right B? Or off a little bit?
ETA: I would attempt to get my entire family out, if that didn't work, I would use whatever force was available and necessary to prevent harm from befalling my family.
its not murder , its called self-defense
Yup. I agree (don't faint Opus)
At the very least it is called killing and killing and murder are two different things as well.
Yup. I agree (don't faint Opus)
At the very least it is called killing and killing and murder are two different things as well.
welcome to the darkside Jory
:claps:
lynn22
10-04-2004, 09:23 PM
I would shoot and ask questions later. I live in a fairly bad neighborhood for people breaking into homes. I have an 8 month old, and if someone broke in, I wouldn't give them a chance. No way.
Beelzebub
10-05-2004, 06:43 AM
what the hell rulebook are you reading out of (rule 4 11)???
and
its not murder , its called self-defense
The Satanic Bible.
It is murder no matter how you disguise it; fact is I do not mind admitting it for what it is. But if it makes you feel better about killing someone then there is no problem.
Or you could read Demona's post; hers is much more reasonable :fork_off:
Yes, Anton LeVey founded the church in 1967. Some argue it is the official church, then again "true satanists" (i.e the occultists) say LeVey was too soft.
its not murder , its called self-defense
Tell that to the judge who jailed Tony Martin in Britain for 3 years after shooting 2 intruders in his home who were there with the obvious intent to burglarise. One of the intruders died (boo frickin' hoo).
And on a side note, my grandmothers house was broken into November of 2003. 3 BOYS aged between 14 and 16, armed with a shotgun, hammer and lead pipe, woke her at 3am demanding to know where she kept her money. Granny lived on her own in dodgy area but in a very large house as she was the first resident of that area and lived there since the 40's.
I should mention that she was 89 years old. She refused to give them anything as she doesn't keep cash in the house.
This was her 12th time being burglarised in 20 years but it was never as severe as this.
After about 30 minutes of this, and after taking her rings from her fingers and ripping a necklace from her neck, one of the boys put a pillow over her face and tried to smother her. While he was doing this his elbow hit her panic button which she had installed about 3 years ago by my uncle's insistance. When he heard the noise he let the pillow go and ran but before they ran they told her they would be back to "finish the job".
Both sides of her face were BLACK from bruises for weeks later where they boy had held the pillow over her face with such force and she needed 4 stitches on the back of her neck from were they ripped the necklace off of her.
The 3 were caught and sentenced to 2 years each. Granny refused to leave her home even for 1 night becasue she felt that it would be letting them win. She acted all brave but she was very jumpy and nervous.
She died 4 months later and everyone knows that ordeal contributed hugely to her death.
My point is, that if Granny had killed anyone that night SHE would be the criminal. After what they put her through, she would have been the one in court.
One of the boys solicitors even tried to sue her because while he was running out of the door he fell over her flowerbed ad damaged his knee!!!!
I don't know how anyone could possibly think it would be ok for her to have been on trial if she had killed anyone yet those 3 boys are now walking the streets after only serving 6 months each.
Scarlet
10-05-2004, 12:16 PM
I'd try and reach the panic button on the alarm if I could -- even with the phone lines cut it makes one hell of a racket... loud enough to hurt your ears inside the house. We have a neighbourhood of busybodies -- sorry, concerned neighbours.. so I would hope they would help. If not I'd try and get us out and leave them to ransack the house while I ran to a neighbour to call the police.
Would I hurt them? If they threatened my kids I'd do pretty much anything, including killing them and going to jail if I had to.
Book Wizard
10-05-2004, 04:53 PM
I certainly hope I would use reason as I do not believe in violence. There are no guns in my house, nor will there ever be. I do have a small collection of swords and bayonets. I have a bayonet that my father-in-law gave me that his stepdad found during WWI. It is from the Franco-Prussian War and it is very sharp. But, I do not think I could ever use it on someone. I do not believe in violence. Violence is not a solution. My dog might have a different opinion, however.
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