View Full Version : Does violance ever solve anything?
GracieMae
07-24-2004, 06:26 PM
Why or why not?
DiznieB
07-24-2004, 10:27 PM
Sometimes a good punch in the face is the only way I can get my point across and it makes me feel SO GOOD. :whistle:
Marge
07-24-2004, 11:25 PM
Why or why not?
Well, sometimes yes. Like as in war, as much as I think most hate the idea, I think at times it is a necesary evil. And what I mean is that I don't think most people want to send our loved ones out to the battlefield, knowing that very well they might not come home anytime soon or not at all, but I also think most would say there is a right time for it.
Also as a last resort of protection from a dangerous situation.
You took my things, hurt my pride, or some such no it wouldn't be acceptable to me.
So for me it would depend.
OnederWoman
07-25-2004, 12:19 AM
What Marge said :)
Tara mom2four
07-25-2004, 06:13 AM
It may feel good momentarily but in the end it causes more problems....
Example, my ex husband was very abusive, on the worst night, he went balistc cause I asked him to call his dad to finalize the details of the trip we were all going on (his dad, step mom and us. His dad was paying for the whole thing) and he wouldn't call. So I told him I'd call then. He took the phone and ripped it out of my hands and threw it then got in my face screaming at me and shoved me (and I was pregnant) so I shoved him back. He then grabbed me and shoved me against the door (on the part that hold the door in the metal parts on the side...) and was in my face just screaming at me. And I tried pushing him away. So he decided to choke me and I couldn't breath I was gagging and he threw me down and I had a hold of his shirt trying to get him to let me go. So when I fell he fell on top of me and he would not get up (he was about 220 pounds) and I kicked him in the balls and he wouldnt budge so I did it again and he slammed my head into the ground. and was chocking me again. I was able to get my mouth on one finger and bit the SOB and I made him bleed. He then grabbed my stomach hard and shoved down hard on it and said "die baby" and got up and the chicken shit took off. I went to a neighbors to call the cops since he busted our phone and when the cop got there he questioned me, and he (my ex) had come back and was calmly drinking a beer with another neighbor and the cop chose to arrest me, since he was bleeding. Not taking into account I was trying to not only save ME but my UNBORN CHILD as well. So I got hauled off to jail cause mr chicken shit LIED to the cops and cause I bit his finger cause he was choking me.
I had far more marks on me then he did. My neck was red my wrist was red, I had bruises on my back from the door and I was 5 months pregnant. So even though I acted in self defense violence does not help anything.
Neither do cops for that matter...... :fork_off:
Brandy
07-25-2004, 11:56 AM
It may feel good momentarily but in the end it causes more problems....
Example, my ex husband was very abusive, on the worst night, he went balistc cause I asked him to call his dad to finalize the details of the trip we were all going on (his dad, step mom and us. His dad was paying for the whole thing) and he wouldn't call. So I told him I'd call then. He took the phone and ripped it out of my hands and threw it then got in my face screaming at me and shoved me (and I was pregnant) so I shoved him back. He then grabbed me and shoved me against the door (on the part that hold the door in the metal parts on the side...) and was in my face just screaming at me. And I tried pushing him away. So he decided to choke me and I couldn't breath I was gagging and he threw me down and I had a hold of his shirt trying to get him to let me go. So when I fell he fell on top of me and he would not get up (he was about 220 pounds) and I kicked him in the balls and he wouldnt budge so I did it again and he slammed my head into the ground. and was chocking me again. I was able to get my mouth on one finger and bit the SOB and I made him bleed. He then grabbed my stomach hard and shoved down hard on it and said "die baby" and got up and the chicken shit took off. I went to a neighbors to call the cops since he busted our phone and when the cop got there he questioned me, and he (my ex) had come back and was calmly drinking a beer with another neighbor and the cop chose to arrest me, since he was bleeding. Not taking into account I was trying to not only save ME but my UNBORN CHILD as well. So I got hauled off to jail cause mr chicken shit LIED to the cops and cause I bit his finger cause he was choking me.
I had far more marks on me then he did. My neck was red my wrist was red, I had bruises on my back from the door and I was 5 months pregnant. So even though I acted in self defense violence does not help anything.
Neither do cops for that matter...... :fork_off:
That is horrible. :( I am so sorry that happened to you and so glad to hear he is an ex.
Brandy
07-25-2004, 12:00 PM
I don't think violence is ever warrented thought at the moment it might seem like a good idea.
IMO self defence is not being violent. You are protecting yourself and that is it.
I use to be a violent person. That is how I solved most of my conflicts. It was sad realy. That is all I saw growing up and as a teenager that is how I mostly dealt with things. I am so glad I grew up and realized that are better ways to handle things.
Marge
07-25-2004, 01:59 PM
Also I wanted to pint out that violence in most cases doesn't solve anything, but still think at times it is necesary.
If my dh hadn't fought back (more than 15 years ago) when he got mugged right outside of a greyhound station he would have been killed. He wasn't fighting to protect his money or ticket, but to keep them from stabbing him and in that case I would say it kept him alive.
Book Wizard
07-26-2004, 06:26 PM
I don't believe in violence and I don't believe it solves anything. However, I do not know what I would do if someone attacked me because that has never happened.
Violence as a means of self defence is totally acceptable.
If my childs life, my husbands life or the life of someone I love is in jeopardy then bring it on.
Demona
07-26-2004, 07:11 PM
Even in self-defense, I think only as much force should be used as is necessary to prevent injury being inflicted on yourself or others. Self-defense is no excuse for delivering a beating once someone is disarmed/unconscious or otherwise no longer a threat.
Self-defense is no excuse for delivering a beating once someone is disarmed/unconscious or otherwise no longer a threat.
Well that couldn't be considered self-defense but I could see where temper and anger could blur that line for some.
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