For atheists about the election

[Minnie_Beebe]

Dear Reality Based Voters,

Who should "WE" as athiests/agnostics, defenders of secular government, support for president of the United States? Who would best keep "Faith-Based" sticky fingers out of my tax dollars?

Thoughts?

[Daethian]

Sorry I'm an agnostic and I still like Bush. I don't have a problem with instilling and protecting morals and values.
Of course I think that Bush way over spends on social programs and there is a lot that could be cut.

[Minnie_Beebe]

Sorry, I should've added agnostics as well.

[IdahoMom]

I guess I've never thought about the election from this perspective. I guess I'm just used to the candidates going on and on about their love for god and country that I've grown blase about it.

[Beelzebub]

I would guess it depends on how strongly you feel about religion. I cannot see an Atheist presidential candidate doing very well in the United States.

In Britain Religion does not play any real part in politics and I only found out a year ago Tony Blair is Catholic and he has been in power for six years but that is not the reason I think he should be ousted from Government.

[DayDreamer]

Actually, Bush's extreme fundamentalist Christian views have REALLY turned me against him more than I already was. As he has shown that he's trying to push HIS beliefs off onto the general public (his "faith based" everything)... and I really resent that.

At this point, I'd be more inclined to elect a trained chimpanzee than reelect Bush. They are both about as likely to be equally effective and intelligent.... but the chimp won't likely spout off about religion at every opportunity :)

[Daethian]

Like it or not, faith based programs do accomplish a lot and there are some people that need to be reached and helped by whatever means possible. Why should we fund people's sexual lifestyle choices but not fund churches that are trying to help people, keep kids out of trouble, discourage children born out of wedlock and hold families together. To me, that sort of stuff will help solidify families and possibly reduce welfare costs.

[April]

Like it or not, faith based programs do accomplish a lot and there are some people that need to be reached and helped by whatever means possible. Why should we fund people's sexual lifestyle choices but not fund churches that are trying to help people, keep kids out of trouble, discourage children born out of wedlock and hold families together. To me, that sort of stuff will help solidify families and possibly reduce welfare costs.

Based on the quote that was brought up at the old board, the Bush administration obviously does not give equal treatment to all faith-based groups. I never really considered religion as part of politics until recently, when I read that quote where they criticized the Pagan-based organizations.

[kingclick]

Based on the quote that was brought up at the old board, the Bush administration obviously does not give equal treatment to all faith-based groups. I never really considered religion as part of politics until recently, when I read that quote where they criticized the Pagan-based organizations.
What quote?

[DayDreamer]

Funding churches and other things is not a problem. But when a politician in such a position of power as the PRESIDENT tries to push HIS PERSONAL RELIGION then it's a problem. And he does it a lot.

Like it or not, faith based programs do accomplish a lot and there are some people that need to be reached and helped by whatever means possible. Why should we fund people's sexual lifestyle choices but not fund churches that are trying to help people, keep kids out of trouble, discourage children born out of wedlock and hold families together. To me, that sort of stuff will help solidify families and possibly reduce welfare costs.

[April]

"I haven't run into a pagan faith-based group yet, much less a pagan group that cares for the poor."
- Jim Towey head of the U.S. federal government's faith-based program

[Minnie_Beebe]

I don't want my tax money going to any "faith based" establishment.

They get enough money from the collection plate.

Plus it violates the seperation of church and state.

Government should be secular in thought and law.

[MooMur]

I don't want my tax money going to any "faith based" establishment.

They get enough money from the collection plate.

Plus it violates the seperation of church and state.

Government should be secular in thought and law.

Totally agree. I am against religion playing any role in government, because religion is a personal thing. Not everyone is a Christian, not everyone is Muslim, not everyone is Jewish. There is no way to accomodate everyone's religion in government. So that is why it shouldn't play a part in it.