2012 Bunk

[eva]

http://www.slate.com/id/2218841


Excellent article, imo

[flygirl]

I didn't even know about this. I have an old vinyl Rush album called 2112 with a bunch of mystical stuff in the lyrics iirc. Wonder if there's a connection?

[Book Wizard]

I have heard about it. There was a program on the National Geographic Channel.

[Terrell]

I've heard of it too, I wouldn't worry about it. Sol is supposed to cross the central plane of the galaxy on that date. Our galaxy is a barred spiral, the plane I'm referring to is if you looked at the galaxy edge on (from the side), where it would be divided if it were divided evenly in 2.

[flygirl]

I've heard of it too, I wouldn't worry about it. Sol is supposed to cross the central plane of the galaxy on that date. Our galaxy is a barred spiral, the plane I'm referring to is if you looked at the galaxy edge on (from the side), where it would be divided if it were divided evenly in 2.That's cool terrell, but divided evenly by a line through which two points of the galaxy viewed from the side? Maybe I'm not picturing it correctly. Viewed as below?

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn20/clarencewolf/milkyway.jpg

[Terrell]

That's cool terrell, but divided evenly by a line through which two points of the galaxy viewed from the side? Maybe I'm not picturing it correctly. Viewed as below?

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn20/clarencewolf/milkyway.jpg

You're looking at the galaxy from either the top or bottom in this pic. Look at this pic, and imagine dividing it in half, make your dividing line from the left edge to the right edge, exactly through the center.
http://web.njit.edu/~gary/321/Cobe_MilkyWay.jpg

While Sol revolves around the galaxy, he's not always on the same plane, he goes up and down, relative to the central black hole in our galaxy as well as orbiting around it. (I can't remember off the top of my head whether Sol is currently above or below the central plane of the galaxy)

[flygirl]

Thanks Terrell. In the pic you show, on a 10/10 graph, I estimate Sol at -3,0 ; 0,0.
Still don't know what that has to do with 2012 though. :shame:

ETA, there is no top or bottom, up and down, in 'space' Terrell.

[Terrell]

Thanks Terrell. In the pic you show, on a 10/10 graph, I estimate Sol at -3,0 ; 0,0.
Still don't know what that has to do with 2012 though. :shame:

The Mayan calendar's long count ends, and Sol aligns with the central plane on the same day. 21 December 2012.

ETA, there is no top or bottom, up and down, in 'space' Terrell.

Yeah I know, all positions are relative, but up and down in this context helps get my point across easily.

[flygirl]

The Mayan calendar's long count ends, and Sol aligns with the central plane on the same day. 21 December 2012.
Teen had to do a presentation of Mayan Mathematics for his AP final. Did you know they were the first to use zero in calculations? Before anyone else.
Plus his GF is of Mayan roots and extremely proud of it. All she says is the Mayan calendar doesn't extend past our december 2012.

[eva]

did you guys read the article?

[flygirl]

did you guys read the article?Sure....
We digressed.
My fault. :shuffle: This stuff fascinates me.
ETA sorry. I'll get out, apologies for hijacking. :shame:

[Terrell]

did you guys read the article?

Yeah, but my posting history demonstrates how I am when anything space related is in a story, or can be tied to one.

[eva]

No, no, I don't care -- I'm all for where the spirit takes you...I was just curious to see if you read it. The part that interests me is how people play on fears to make money, gain control, etc.

I mean, honestly, it's hilarious - first of all that we should take one ancient civilization's ideas over any other (including Christianity) and secondly that anyone would put any trust in the spirituality of a civilization that made human sacrifices and murdered the losing basketball team.

[flygirl]

No, no, I don't care -- I'm all for where the spirit takes you...I was just curious to see if you read it. The part that interests me is how people play on fears to make money, gain control, etc.

I mean, honestly, it's hilarious - first of all that we should take one ancient civilization's ideas over any other (including Christianity) and secondly that anyone would put any trust in the spirituality of a civilization that made human sacrifices and murdered the losing basketball team.
Oh, I don't know eva. At least they killed their sacrifices one at a time in the name of their religion. The Christians were more about wholesale murder.
Anyway, I agree it's silly.

[BAmaracas]

I didn't even know about this. I have an old vinyl Rush album called 2112 with a bunch of mystical stuff in the lyrics iirc. Wonder if there's a connection?

The Rush album was named for the title track which had something to do with Ayn Rand, space wars and Tchaikovsky's 1812 Overture.

People should only be worried about the world ending on December 21, 2012, if they also believe that it started on August 11, 3114 BC.

[Pops In]

Bugger. I thought this was about the London Olympics bollocks.

[JPSartre12]

Oh, I don't know eva. At least they killed their sacrifices one at a time in the name of their religion. The Christians were more about wholesale murder.
Anyway, I agree it's silly.

Name a religion that doesn't have any acts of wholesale murder associated with it. In fact, tell me an atheist leader that doesn't either.

[flygirl]

Name a religion that doesn't have any acts of wholesale murder associated with it.
I don't know. The wiccans are a pretty peaceful bunch it seems.
I get your point though, as it was pretty much the same as mine. :)

[JPSartre12]

I don't know. The wiccans are a pretty peaceful bunch it seems.
I get your point though, as it was pretty much the same as mine. :)

Man. by his very nature, is an opportunist. Unscrupulous men will use whatever "hook" they can to get people to do their bidding for them. Money, religion, fear mongering, nationalism, they are all tools of the manipulators.

[BAmaracas]

Name a religion that doesn't have any acts of wholesale murder associated with it. In fact, tell me an atheist leader that doesn't either.

I vote Amish.

[holychicken]

Damn it, eva! I have been planning my entire life around the fact that the world is going to end in 2012. Now what the hell am I going to do?

[flygirl]

I vote Amish.Oh, yeah. I forgot them, and by extension the Mennonites. What about those people in the yellow robes at airports? Hare Krishna's? They look pretty harmless as well. :)

[JPSartre12]

I don't know. The wiccans are a pretty peaceful bunch it seems.I get your point though, as it was pretty much the same as mine. :)

I don't know about that. Just ask Macbeth. ;)