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Epicurus
02-02-2004, 06:39 PM
As you might guess, I am against this.

Collette

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/environment/story.jsp?story=486659

GM rice to be grown for medicine
By Geoffrey Lean, Environment Editor
01 February 2004


GM crops specially engineered to produce drugs are to be grown commercially
for the first time, The Independent on Sunday can reveal.

An American biotech company plans to start growing medicines to treat
diarrhoea in modified rice this spring. Its proposals were examined last
week by regulatory authorities in California, but they have no power to
stop the planting.

The rice will usher in a second generation of GM crops, which are bound to
polarise opinion even more than those that have already caused controversy
around the world. Unlike current crops they could offer real benefits to
millions of people - but they also pose far greater health risks.

Top officials at the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
believe that the danger is so great that the new crops should never be
grown in Britain. But Downing Street has cautiously endorsed them.

The possibilities for growing drugs in plants - dubbed "pharming" - have
been researched for years, with scientists developing a wide range of
vaccines and other medicines in several common foods in the laboratory. But
now Ventria Bioscience, based in Sacramento, is to break new ground by
planting 130 acres with two new varieties of GM rice that will produce
lactoferrin and lysozyme, infection-fighting chemicals that it will market
for use in oral rehydration products to treat severe diarrhoea.

It says that this could generate enough lactoferrin to treat at least
650,000 sick children, and sufficient lysozyme for 6.5 million patients. It
hopes to expand production to 1,000 acres within a few years.

The company will not disclose the site that it has earmarked for the new
crops because it is worried that protesters will destroy them. But its
plans have already caused alarm in California's rice-growing country.
Organic farmers, in particular, fear that the GM rice will contaminate
their crops; the company says that there is "no risk".

On Thursday the arguments were thrashed out before a meeting of the
California Rice Commission, which is drawing up a protocol of conditions
under which the rice can be grown. But Tim Johnson, the commission's
president, told The Independent on Sunday that neither it nor the state's
agriculture secretary, to whom it reports, has the power to stop the rice
being cultivated.

He said that the commission was instead concentrating on working out
precautions - such as the distance the GM rice must be from conventional
crops - to try to minimise risks.

The chemicals in the rice are relatively mild - they are found in mother's
milk - but they are likely to pave the way for a wide range of stronger
ones. Scientists, for example, have developed vaccines to treat diseases
ranging from measles to hepatitis B - and antibodies to treat cancer and
dental caries, provide contraceptives and prevent genital herpes - in
potatoes, maize, wheat, rice, alfalfa, carrots and tomatoes.

The company says that its plants "will become 'factories' that manufacture
therapeutic proteins to combat life-threatening illnesses". It adds that
"plants improved through the use of biotechnology" can produce them "for
innovative treatments for diseases such as cancer, HIV, heart disease,
diabetes, Alzheimer's disease, kidney disease, Crohn's disease, cystic
fibrosis and many others".

Humdinger
02-02-2004, 06:45 PM
:eek: All I have to say is they better mark that shit because I won't be buying it. I think I have tasted the BEST rice, meat, eggs and chicken because of where I'm living now. There are no pesticides or hormones in any of the meat, milk, eggs or rice. And let me tell you, Japan is so in love with it's rice(and rightly so, it is heavenly) that they don't even export the kind I/They eat. It is for Japan only.

kingclick
02-02-2004, 06:51 PM
The article seems to indicate that the GM rice will not be available on the market but is just going to be produced to harvest those particular agents in the rice.

We wont be seeing any "No Runny Crap" Rice on the shelves any time soon.

But I still don't support this concept unless the danger is 100% reduced.

RogueAngel
02-02-2004, 08:41 PM
I don't agree with it. Something about fooling around with what Mother Nature gives us sends up a big red flag in my mind.

Epicurus
02-03-2004, 08:39 AM
What else would be their purpose other than to market it? Doctors prescribe it? "Take two bowls of rice and call me in the morning" :)

Collette

kingclick
02-03-2004, 11:04 AM
To harvest it and put it into pills.

Beelzebub
02-04-2004, 07:42 AM
Do we have any diabetics at the board? If we do, I am sure they know how their insulin in produced.

The gene responsible for the creation of insulin is inserted into the DNA of a vector, which causes insulin to be produced in great quantities.

They used to take insulin from animals, now we use bacteria.

That is going against Mother Nature, but nobody complains.

The rate that the human population is expanding, we will need plans like this to mass-produce medicine.

If you want to follow Mother Nature, let those who become sick, fend for themselves.. Those who survive will pass on the gene which grants immunity and therefore we will not have to worry about it.

Sanguine
02-04-2004, 12:50 PM
Beelzebub makes some good points. I would also add that we have been modifying the genes of all the crops we grow for centuries. Before the advent of direct genetic modification we altered the genes of plants (and animals) through selective breeding and hybridisation. There is hardly a single crop we grow that bears much resemblance to its natural ancestor. Anyone ever seen wild wheat? It looks pretty much the same as any other grass. The technology we have today lets us directly pick the genes, and therefore the traits they code for, we want instead of having to do it through older, equally 'unnatural' processes. The only problem I have with GM food is that it still doesn't taste any better.

Beelzebub
02-04-2004, 05:02 PM
Beelzebub makes some good points. I would also add that we have been modifying the genes of all the crops we grow for centuries. Before the advent of direct genetic modification we altered the genes of plants (and animals) through selective breeding and hybridisation. There is hardly a single crop we grow that bears much resemblance to its natural ancestor. Anyone ever seen wild wheat? It looks pretty much the same as any other grass. The technology we have today lets us directly pick the genes, and therefore the traits they code for, we want instead of having to do it through older, equally 'unnatural' processes. The only problem I have with GM food is that it still doesn't taste any better.

Very good point Sanguine, one that I sadly overlooked. People do not realise the extent that our food is altered. Take something which is marginal like butter. It its natural state it is white.

People believe that this GM food will contaminate the ecological system and take over, possibly destroying our eco-system. The fact is it probably will not. If you wish to stop pollen from contaminating the system, breed plants without seeds and the abililty to reproduce. This is actually being done now.

April
02-05-2004, 04:26 PM
Do we have any diabetics at the board? If we do, I am sure they know how their insulin in produced.

The gene responsible for the creation of insulin is inserted into the DNA of a vector, which causes insulin to be produced in great quantities.

They used to take insulin from animals, now we use bacteria.

That is going against Mother Nature, but nobody complains.

The rate that the human population is expanding, we will need plans like this to mass-produce medicine.

If you want to follow Mother Nature, let those who become sick, fend for themselves.. Those who survive will pass on the gene which grants immunity and therefore we will not have to worry about it.


My son is diabetic. Insulin used to come from pigs. Had 'Mother Nature' not been tampered with, my son's quality of life and level of care would not be where it is today.

Beelzebub
02-05-2004, 04:36 PM
My son is diabetic. Insulin used to come from pigs. Had 'Mother Nature' not been tampered with, my son's quality of life and level of care would not be where it is today.

That there is my point :D

Had we not exploited Mother Nature through the use of science we would have never of been able to fulfil insulin quotas.

Epicurus
02-08-2004, 10:49 AM
I never said modern science should not march on. What does growing medicine into rice have to do with that? Being against this is not going to deprive diabetics or anyone else.
Why do we need to grow medicines into rice? Will it be prescription or is the intent to force medications into the general public?
I do not see where going against this notion is going against progress? Just because we are for progress doesn't mean we blindly jump on every bandwagon. Some things are just not a good idea.
I don't want my food polluted. I think brown rice is nutritious enough right now. I am very happy with the nutritional value of natural foods right now.

Collette