View Full Version : Do you believe in karma?
JustCheryl
11-12-2007, 09:46 AM
Does one reap what they sow?
Does what goes around come around?
Do you think that you get treated based on the way you treat others?
jitobear
11-12-2007, 09:48 AM
Yep. Its even evident in science. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.
JustCheryl
11-12-2007, 09:51 AM
I don't think karma be scientifically proven though....
flygirl
11-12-2007, 12:08 PM
Yes
Shannie-Poo
11-12-2007, 12:20 PM
Yes I believe. In all three questions the answer is yes.
And I hope the lady next door gets it back trifold.
holychicken
11-12-2007, 12:26 PM
I don't believe in karma per se, but I do believe that one tends to reap what they have sown.
Truffles
11-12-2007, 12:29 PM
I really don't believe in karma.
There are a lot of assholes out there that have great lives.
JPSartre12
11-12-2007, 01:00 PM
Does one reap what they sow?
When one is a farmer, yes. ;)
Does what goes around come around?
Only if its a boomerang
Do you think that you get treated based on the way you treat others?
Sometimes.
kingclick
11-12-2007, 03:02 PM
I really don't believe in karma.
There are a lot of assholes out there that have great lives.
What she said!
:cheer:
I don't really believe in karma, but I do believe in taking responsibility for how you treat people, how you spend your time and money, etc. - that's usually what I think of when I think of "you reap what you sow." However, I do agree that there is no rhyme or reason to life - bad things happen to good people and good to bad. The only thing to do is be open to lessons from whatever comes your way.
JPSartre12
11-12-2007, 06:10 PM
I really don't believe in karma.
There are a lot of assholes out there that have great lives.
Agreed and most of the ones that I know drive Beamers. ;)
kingclick
11-12-2007, 06:32 PM
Agreed and most of the ones that I know drive Beamers. ;)
Jealous of people who drive Beamers for a living? Wow, I had no idea that you were on such tough times. I mean pounding fence posts really isn't something I would say is something to be jealous of.
Now if one were to say that a Beemer driver is a jerk, you might be right in Germany, but here in America it's the good old "muscle heads" that are the jerks on the road.
"Beemer" drivers at least can survive that drunken dickhead with too much power under his hood while compensating for a loss of "drive" in his pants.
JPSartre12
11-12-2007, 06:35 PM
Jealous of people who drive Beamers for a living? Wow, I had no idea that you were on such tough times. I mean pounding fence posts really isn't something I would say is something to be jealous of.
Now if one were to say that a Beemer driver is a jerk, you might be right in Germany, but here in America it's the good old "muscle heads" that are the jerks on the road.
"Beemer" drivers at least can survive that drunken dickhead with too much power under his hood while compensating for a loss of "drive" in his pants.
So YOU drive a beamer? My point has been proven then.:jester1:
Do you know what te difference is between a Beamer and a cactus?
A cactus has its pricks on the outside. ;)
justGina
11-12-2007, 06:56 PM
Not exactly, but I do believe in treating others the way I want to be treated.
justGina
11-12-2007, 06:57 PM
Do you know what te difference is between a Beamer and a cactus?
A cactus has its pricks on the outside. ;)
LOL.
No offense, king. :dance:
Terrell
11-12-2007, 07:10 PM
Not exactly, but I do believe in treating others the way I want to be treated.
This is pretty close. I don't believe in Karma per se, though I do think that in some instances things do come back to bite you in the arse, but there's really not a supernatural explination for such things. If a person mistreats another person, that 2nd person may at some time in the future seek revenge against them in some way shape or form. (revenge doesn't have to involve breaking the law btw)
Raven
11-12-2007, 08:00 PM
As Truffles said, there are too many assholes lives very good lives for me to believe/have faith in some sort of cosmic karma. That said, I do think that our actions will influence to some degree. I don't think someone can spew bad stuff indefinately without eventually having their actions catch up to them.
Does one reap what they sow?
Does what goes around come around?
Do you think that you get treated based on the way you treat others?
Karma...No. that is just wishful thinking and wishing is for losers. Get over it move on. (not anyone in particular here :paranoid:) I don't have time to hope for bad things to land on you.
Do you reap what you sow? Yes, and if you are smart, you will grow from it. If you are a stupid ass, you will blame everyone else and keep repeating your reaping.
Oh that whole do unto others is a bunch of shit too. You know what asshole? I am nice to you because it makes me feel superior. Yeah, that's right. It has nothing to do with treating you the way I want to be treated or turning my cheek (my ASS cheek that is). I KNOW you will continue to be an asshole no matter how I react, so I like to just sit there all sweet and sugary just cuz I know it makes you lose control even more. Yeah, it is all about me feeling all superior and laughing inside at you.
So, can anyone tell I have had a day full of assholes today?
Truffles
11-12-2007, 08:30 PM
:howling:
Raven
11-12-2007, 08:54 PM
Karma...No. that is just wishful thinking and wishing is for losers. Get over it move on. (not anyone in particular here :paranoid:) I don't have time to hope for bad things to land on you.
Do you reap what you sow? Yes, and if you are smart, you will grow from it. If you are a stupid ass, you will blame everyone else and keep repeating your reaping.
Oh that whole do unto others is a bunch of shit too. You know what asshole? I am nice to you because it makes me feel superior. Yeah, that's right. It has nothing to do with treating you the way I want to be treated or turning my cheek (my ASS cheek that is). I KNOW you will continue to be an asshole no matter how I react, so I like to just sit there all sweet and sugary just cuz I know it makes you lose control even more. Yeah, it is all about me feeling all superior and laughing inside at you.
So, can anyone tell I have had a day full of assholes today? :bighug: I am sorry you had a crappy day, but oh that was spot on!! :howling: Can I use that in my siggy line? :lol:
:bighug: I am sorry you had a crappy day, but oh that was spot on!! :howling: Can I use that in my siggy line? :lol:
Sure if you wanna. The day wasn't too bad. I have just always hated the belief in Karma. It does seem that no one gets their just reward.
kingclick
11-12-2007, 11:14 PM
So YOU drive a beamer? My point has been proven then.:jester1:
Do you know what te difference is between a Beamer and a cactus?
A cactus has its pricks on the outside. ;)
Did ya hear that sound of that Jet Passing over your head at about 30,000 feet? That was you not getting that you have now misspelled BEEMER twice like you actually think you know something about them.
Beamer is something you get WHEN you get a blowjob. Beemer is something men get TO get a blowjob.
kingclick
11-12-2007, 11:15 PM
LOL.
No offense, king. :dance:
No offense taken. I don't drive a beemer and if I owned one, it would be a gift for my wife. And I would never consider her a prick.
Liade
11-25-2007, 12:52 AM
Do you think that you get treated based on the way you treat others?
Not really. I've been my best for certain people for decades, doting on them, being affectionate, doing special little things for no reason, etc. Its never returned to me. I'm still pushed aside, taken for granted and ignored. I've actually tried extra hard to put that theory to the test and never seen evidence that it worked. ~ Sure wish it did!
Does one reap what they sow?
Not exactly. I do believe that those who live dishonourably will get their just desserts eventually, but that the way that comes about is often not as visible, spectacular or "tit for tat" as others might hope or expect. A certain person I know who cheated on his wife for 18 years and when she found out and threw him out, he screwed her in the divorce. She is still waiting, 7 years on, for him to get his comeuppance, but I see him getting it already. He has been in a relationship with an emotionally unavailable woman for 6 years now and she just strings him along, and recently, he was diagnosed with arthritis.
My point is, if you expect a cheater will get cheated on and a thief will get robbed, you may be waiting a long time, but I do have faith that people will be dealt out the suffering they deal out to others eventually, though what suffering means to them may be entirely different than what it means to their victims hence it may take a different form than expected. You can call it Karma if you like, I do for convenience' sake, though I don't believe in some entity or presence that keeps score, as such.
Does what goes around come around?
Yes. See above.
Do you think that you get treated based on the way you treat others?
On the surface, perhaps; if I smile at someone they are more likely to smile back, if I bitch at them they're more likely to bitch back. But beyond that, no. We don't always get what we deserve, sometimes we get shat on by people we've been good to. I firmly believe that a person who shits on someone who didn't deserve it will get their own back in some other way though.
I really don't believe in karma.
There are a lot of assholes out there that have great lives.
How can you possibly judge who suffers and who doesn't from the outside, though? What is great to you may not be great to them, for starters, and second, you are undoubtedly unaware of much of what happens below the surface and behind closed doors. You may see an asshole who is happily married with two great kids and lives in a fancy house, drives a nice car and has a great job, but on the inside where you can't see, he may be miserable because he's in the closet and can't ever conceive of coming out, or his wife cheats on him and he knows it, or he has a painful disease that will kill him but isn't obvious on the outside. Suffering is private for the most part, and what is bliss to one person can be utter misery to another.
Jokimoto
11-25-2007, 08:07 PM
Do you believe in karma? :werd: Oops, I mean Wyrd.
How can you possibly judge who suffers and who doesn't from the outside, though? What is great to you may not be great to them, for starters, and second, you are undoubtedly unaware of much of what happens below the surface and behind closed doors. You may see an asshole who is happily married with two great kids and lives in a fancy house, drives a nice car and has a great job, but on the inside where you can't see, he may be miserable because he's in the closet and can't ever conceive of coming out, or his wife cheats on him and he knows it, or he has a painful disease that will kill him but isn't obvious on the outside. Suffering is private for the most part, and what is bliss to one person can be utter misery to another.
Yeah, but every single one of us suffers in our own private way. When we have been visably hurt, it would be really nice for Karma to bitch smack the offenders in a really public way. otherwise Karma can FO for all the use he/she is.
Yeah, but every single one of us suffers in our own private way. When we have been visably hurt, it would be really nice for Karma to bitch smack the offenders in a really public way. otherwise Karma can FO for all the use he/she is.
Lol. The ex-wife in my first post would wholeheartedly agree with you!!! But you're both looking at Karma as a big Revenge-machine. It's not, IMV, it's not about giving justice to victims, it's about bringing balance to the universe.
It'd be nice, though, sometimes.... ;)
JPSartre12
11-27-2007, 09:13 AM
Lol. The ex-wife in my first post would wholeheartedly agree with you!!! But you're both looking at Karma as a big Revenge-machine. It's not, IMV, it's not about giving justice to victims, it's about bringing balance to the universe.
It'd be nice, though, sometimes.... ;)
I don't believe in karma. It's just more mystical bullshit. Next people will be back to worshiping stones.....or is that "crystals". :bs:
Lol. The ex-wife in my first post would wholeheartedly agree with you!!! But you're both looking at Karma as a big Revenge-machine. It's not, IMV, it's not about giving justice to victims, it's about bringing balance to the universe.
It'd be nice, though, sometimes.... ;)
That sounds sweeter and easier to swallow. But then I just think it sounds like the same kind of bull people say to make themselves feel better when they claim God will smite this or that bad person. God rarely does, and then of course that bad person repents and goes to heaven. I swear. It looks as if the better deal is to be an ass.
That sounds sweeter and easier to swallow. But then I just think it sounds like the same kind of bull people say to make themselves feel better when they claim God will smite this or that bad person. God rarely does, and then of course that bad person repents and goes to heaven. I swear. It looks as if the better deal is to be an ass.
Lol!!! Each to their own I guess. :) I don't believe in God as a "smiter" or in the idea that evil scum that repents on their deathbed still gets to go to heaven, personally. IMV those who die having spent their lives being miserable assholes then spend the afterlife in misery of their own making at the pain and heartache they caused others. But if you don't believe something similar it would be hard not to feel like the scum of the earth gets the better deal.
I don't believe in karma. It's just more mystical bullshit. Next people will be back to worshiping stones.....or is that "crystals". :bs:
Each to their own JP, each to their own. :dance:
JPSartre12
11-27-2007, 10:23 PM
Each to their own JP, each to their own. :dance:
As my buddy once told me, "there's an ass for every seat." :werd:
As my buddy once told me, "there's an ass for every seat." :werd:
Yup! Even for the right-wing conservative skeptic with a soft spot for Brilcreem, fast cars and Elvis!
In musical chairs, there's one less seat for every ass each time the music plays. Ah, if only that were life.
Anyhoo...I don't see how people can believe in karma unless they believe that everything that happens to everybody is somehow "deserved" and that simply isn't true - innocent babies don't deserve to suffer, the ten year girl here last night caught in the crossfire of a gang shoot-out and killed didn't "deserve" it. You can't believe that good will necessarily come to good unless you believe that bad only comes to bad. To me, it's illogical.
PlayBall40
11-28-2007, 04:48 PM
No, I don't. I do believe in self fulfilled prophecy though.
In musical chairs, there's one less seat for every ass each time the music plays. Ah, if only that were life.
Anyhoo...I don't see how people can believe in karma unless they believe that everything that happens to everybody is somehow "deserved" and that simply isn't true - innocent babies don't deserve to suffer, the ten year girl here last night caught in the crossfire of a gang shoot-out and killed didn't "deserve" it. You can't believe that good will necessarily come to good unless you believe that bad only comes to bad. To me, it's illogical.
Eva, I don't believe everything is deserved, but I do believe everything is necessary. I don't think good only comes to good or bad only comes to bad, for one thing no one is all good or all bad. I think sometimes bad stuff happens to good people because it was a necessary part of a larger picture we're not privvy to. That girl might have been the sacrificial lamb that was needed to wake up the guy who killed her and prevent him from doing something even worse down the track. Perhaps he goes on to sort his life out, becomes a surgeon and saves someone very important to the world - the guy who ends up curing cancer, for example. Or perhaps the girl's parents will go on to have another child now because their dd was killed, and that child is crucial to the world. I don't know, and in no way am I suggesting that I'd be able to shrug something like that off as "necessary" if it happened to me, but I do believe that, intellectually. I don't think the whole world revolves around karma or everything that happens can be explained by karma, it's just part of how the universe operates IMV, part of the whole, much like our bodies don't just exist to eat and drink, but also to move, to think, to breathe, etc; ALL those parts are equally vital to our survival even though none of them (well, breathing I guess) are a part of EVERY activity we undertake.
JPSartre12
11-28-2007, 08:32 PM
Yup! Even for the right-wing conservative skeptic with a soft spot for Brilcreem, fast cars and Elvis!
If you mean me, you're only 1 for three. I do like fast cars, but you can keep Elvis and the Brilcream........on second thought, leave the Brilcream mermaid. :drools: :Booty:
If you mean me, you're only 1 for three. I do like fast cars, but you can keep Elvis and the Brilcream........on second thought, leave the Brilcream mermaid. :drools: :Booty:
It was a joke JP, in reference to your conservative positions on many issues. I picked some random things popularised during the same decade as the stances you've represented here at times. :P ;)
kingclick
11-30-2007, 01:01 AM
It was a joke JP, in reference to your conservative positions on many issues. I picked some random things popularised during the same decade as the stances you've represented here at times. :P ;)
What was wooshing that sound? The joke flying right over JP's head.
holychicken
11-30-2007, 10:00 AM
In musical chairs, there's one less seat for every ass each time the music plays. Ah, if only that were life.
Anyhoo...I don't see how people can believe in karma unless they believe that everything that happens to everybody is somehow "deserved" and that simply isn't true - innocent babies don't deserve to suffer, the ten year girl here last night caught in the crossfire of a gang shoot-out and killed didn't "deserve" it. You can't believe that good will necessarily come to good unless you believe that bad only comes to bad. To me, it's illogical.
Not that I believe in Karma, but it seems that you don't fully understand the concept of it. Karma is not just about things coming back to you for what you have already done, but also for things that you are currently doing or even things you will do.
The "innocent" baby who suffered may be paying for something they have not yet done (or if they die, something that they would have done later in life).
Karma is also passed from one reincarnation to the next. So the girl who died in a crossfire may have been a gang member who did just that in the life before, or will do so in a life in the future.
But it is a religious belief. . .since when are religious beliefs logical? Faith is all about believing the illogical.
JPSartre12
11-30-2007, 10:41 AM
It was a joke JP, in reference to your conservative positions on many issues. I picked some random things popularised during the same decade as the stances you've represented here at times. :P ;)
What was wooshing that sound? The joke flying right over JP's head.
And I guess that my attempt at a humorous response to Diva's statement went right over both of your heads. ;)
kingclick
11-30-2007, 09:04 PM
And I guess that my attempt at a humorous response to Diva's statement went right over both of your heads. ;)
Aaaah I see. The problem here is that your attempt to be humorous failed miserably. And so did your little dance to try and get out of being considered clueless to her joke.
JPSartre12
11-30-2007, 09:53 PM
Aaaah I see. The problem here is that your attempt to be humorous failed miserably. And so did your little dance to try and get out of being considered clueless to her joke.
Yeah, that's it. And I DO believe in mermaids, too, right? :rolleyes2
ArcticPhoenix
12-29-2007, 06:38 PM
Does one reap what they sow? Rarely.
Does what goes around come around? Not usually.
Do you think that you get treated based on the way you treat others? By those that know me, yes. This only makes sense. If someone is nice to you, you are generally nice to them. The same doesn't necessarily apply to strangers.
Karma is a dubious concept but on the other hand I have seen people get back what they dished out, not immediately but years later, so I am of two minds about it. There is no scientific explanation for it but .......
Brandywine
01-04-2008, 02:48 PM
Indeed, there may be many jerks that appear to have nice lives. However, no one can truly know for certain that those jerks aren't suffering inside or even behind closed doors. I don't know a single human being that has the ability to read the minds and hearts of another.
That being said, yes I do believe in what goes around comes around. I do believe you reap what you sow. I do believe that people treat you only as good as you treat them. I also believe that everything happens for a reason.
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