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Epicurus
01-31-2004, 10:27 AM
Reflecting the Concerns of the Community January 28 - February 3, 2004
Vol. 5, Issue 33


Reflections & Observations

A Violation of Rights


Once again, it was the experts versus the people at last week’s Santa
Monica City Council meeting. The experts were there to urge the Council to
proceed with the fluoridation of the City water supply. It was not only
safe, they said, it would improve the health of the community. The people
were there to tell the Council, again, that they didn’t want fluoride in
their water. It was a violation of their right to choose what to put into
their bodies, they said, and fluoride was not good for people, they said.

The thing about experts is that they often disagree with each other,
and, on the fluoride question, there are experts who allege that fluoride
is toxic, as well as experts who allege that it’s safe. In addition,
experts often change their minds. A little wine with meals is good for you,
or any wine at all is bad for you. Tea is healthy and/or unhealthy.

Estrogen was vital for women of a certain age, or not.

We don’t know how many residents want fluoride in their water, and we
don’t think it matters, because this is not a question that can or should
be decided for all of the people by some of the people. Nor do we know
whether fluoride is good or bad for people, and we’re not sure anyone
does. But we believe that every one of us has the right to choose what he
or she will ingest, and we also believe that the government — city,
county, state or federal — does not have the right to force-feed anything
to people.

The very idea is grotesque.

Mayor Richard Bloom and Council members Bob Holbrook, Herb Katz and Pam
O’Connor support fluoridation, while Council members Michael Feinstein,
Ken Genser and Kevin McKeown oppose it.

Whatever other talents or knowledge they may have, Bloom, a lawyer,
Holbrook, a pharmacist, Katz, an architect, an O’Connor, a consultant on
historic preservation, are not qualified to prescribe medications for us.
In his professional capacity, Holbrook fills prescriptions, but he
doesn’t write them, and lawyers, architects and consultants can’t and
shouldn’t do either. And, as far as we know, no one on City staff is
qualified to prescribe medications for anyone, much less everyone.

Further, for reasons that are not clear, the Council did not seek the
advice of its own Environmental Task Force before it approved the
fluoridation of City water.

One of the arguments used by the fluoride proponents is that there are
some residents who can’t afford regular dental care and therefore need
fluoridated water. But if the City proceeds and fluoridates the municipal
water supply, people who don’t want to drink it, for whatever reason,
will be forced to pay for a commodity they cannot use, and to buy bottled
water or install water purifiers that they may not be able to afford.

If the City believes the fluoride is good for people, then it should
supply it to the people who want it — in some medium other than the City
water supply.

Copyright by Santa Monica Mirror 2004
http://www.smmirror.com/volume5/issue33/a_violation_of.asp

GracieMae
01-31-2004, 11:24 AM
If the City believes the fluoride is good for people, then it should
supply it to the people who want it — in some medium other than the City
water supply

I agree with this statement. If someone feels that strongly about not having flouride in the water supply they shouldn't be forced.

PsychoBunny
01-31-2004, 11:28 AM
Well, so far we don't have much of a debate going. LOL I agree with Gracie.

Epicurus
01-31-2004, 11:58 AM
Well, so far we don't have much of a debate going. LOL I agree with Gracie.


Yeah:) There are a lot of people who feel mandatory fluoride is a must. I am sure some of them will show up in this discussion.
There are too many concerns IMO to make it mandatory. If anyone wants to take the time to do a search on fluoride they might be surprised at what they find.
My kids use fluoride-free toothpaste and their teeth are in great shape! I do allow fluoride treatments for the older ones with a pre-speech of not swallowing it no matter what! Even I swallow some toothpaste when I brush. I prefer my family not ingest poisons into our systems when we can avoid it KWIM?

Collette

mom2burgess
01-31-2004, 02:25 PM
Still not much of a debate, I agree with all of the above

PsychoBunny
01-31-2004, 02:37 PM
For me it is just common sense that it is easier for people to add something, than to take it away. And everyone should have a right to "clean" water, but those that don't want it won't be able to take it out. KWIM?

Minnie_Beebe
01-31-2004, 03:18 PM
I grew up with fluorinated water and it hasn't hurt me yet.

...of course neither has the arsenic. :eek:

PsychoBunny
01-31-2004, 03:22 PM
I grew up with fluorinated water and it hasn't hurt me yet.

...of course neither has the arsenic. :eek:
But see, there are many, many things that people can say that about that we now know is not safe. What it boils down to is having a choice.

kingclick
02-02-2004, 01:06 PM
I think flourinated water is good! Yum! I mean how else would we get the bubbles in our soda!!

Oh.....that's carbonated? Oh well then.....nevermind.

GracieMae
02-02-2004, 01:15 PM
I think flourinated water is good! Yum! I mean how else would we get the bubbles in our soda!!

Oh.....that's carbonated? Oh well then.....nevermind.

Goof :D