The Best the Democrats Have to Offer

[Prisoner]

Is this Presidential material? One of these guys mocking the flag raising at Iwo Jima is John Kerry, the Democrat front-runner. Is this who we want speaking for America?
http://freespeechforums.net/pics/kerry-newsoldier.jpg

[Michele]

But...he looks like Abraham Lincoln!

[Demona]

And he was how old when he did that?

[kingclick]

What is the book all about?

[Prisoner]

Does it matter how old he was when he went to Congress and accused his fellow Vietnam Vets of committing war crimes, when he never witnessed them committing crimes he was accusing them of committing?

As a Senator, he voted to end key weapons programs that have played an integral part in our success in the Gulf and Afghanistan. He wanted to slash the anti-terrorism budget in 1995.

Disrespecting the country is not excuseable, no matter how old he was when he did it.

[Beelzebub]

What is wrong with criticising the country? Is that not a form of free speech?

[April]

How is that worse than GWB going AWOL?

[Prisoner]

How is that worse than GWB going AWOL?
con·jec·ture ( P ) Pronunciation Key (kn-jkchr)
n.
Inference or judgment based on inconclusive or incomplete evidence; guesswork.

[Prisoner]

How is that worse than GWB going AWOL?
Show me where I said there was anything wrong with criticising the country.

He is disrespecting other men who wore the uniform by mocking them. Note, the picture is a mockery of the Iwo Jima flag raising.

Wonder why he never talks about this book.

[April]

con·jec·ture ( P ) Pronunciation Key (kn-jkchr)
n.
Inference or judgment based on inconclusive or incomplete evidence; guesswork.

evidence

\Ev"i*dence\, n. [F. ['e]vidence, L. Evidentia. See Evident.] 1. That which makes evident or manifest; that which furnishes, or tends to furnish, proof; any mode of proof; the ground of belief or judgement; as, the evidence of our senses; evidence of the truth or falsehood of a statement.

See below:


http://www.tompaine.com/feature.cfm/ID/3671

[April]

Show me where I said there was anything wrong with criticising the country.

He is disrespecting other men who wore the uniform by mocking them. Note, the picture is a mockery of the Iwo Jima flag raising.

Wonder why he never talks about this book.


Umm...show me where I said YOU said anything was wrong with criticizing the country. I just asked how this picture is worse than Bush going AWOL.

Abandoning your obligation and commitment to serve your country versus posing for a satirical picture...hmmmm.

[Prisoner]

Nearly two hundred manila-wrapped pages of George Walker Bush's service records came to me like some sort of giant banana stuffed into my mailbox.

And this makes it evidence?

Why don't you research what is permissible in the National Guard and start a topic since all you want to do is try to raise Kerry up by making up lies about Bush?

[Prisoner]

Monkey, you didn't, I quoted Beelze message, at least that is the message I replied to.

There seems to be a glich when one clicks on fast reply in a message, then clicks to include the original message. It just quotes the last message...Sorry for the confusion.

[April]

Nearly two hundred manila-wrapped pages of George Walker Bush's service records came to me like some sort of giant banana stuffed into my mailbox.

And this makes it evidence?

Why don't you research what is permissible in the National Guard and start a topic since all you want to do is try to raise Kerry up by making up lies about Bush?

No, the scanned documents you'll find linked throughout show the timeline of GWB's service.
Oh, and let's not forget his cocaine abuse. Illegal drug use is definitely worse than using your right to free speech.

You're attempting to raise Bush up by posting 30 yr old pictures of Kerry. How is it any different?

[April]

Monkey, you didn't, I quoted Beelze message, at least that is the message I replied to.

There seems to be a glich when one clicks on fast reply in a message, then clicks to include the original message. It just quotes the last message...Sorry for the confusion.

Pris, I've got three kids. I am wallowing in confusion! ;) I think I can handle a bit more.

[Beelzebub]

Show me where I said there was anything wrong with criticising the country.

He is disrespecting other men who wore the uniform by mocking them. Note, the picture is a mockery of the Iwo Jima flag raising.

Wonder why he never talks about this book.

"Disrespecting the country is not excuseable, no matter how old he was when he did it." ~Prisoner

[Prisoner]

"Disrespecting the country is not excuseable, no matter how old he was when he did it." ~Prisoner

Disrespect and criticism are two different words.

One can criticise the nation without disrespecting it.

[Prisoner]

No, the scanned documents you'll find linked throughout show the timeline of GWB's service.
Oh, and let's not forget his cocaine abuse. Illegal drug use is definitely worse than using your right to free speech.
Cocaine use huh? More conjecture. Why don't you provide proof?

As for the documents that you claim is proof that he was a AWOL for a year, which by the way, makes him a deserter, let me ask you this. Was one of those documents an Honorable Discharge? Deserters do not get those.

Get the regulations for the Guard and then get back with us.

You're attempting to raise Bush up by posting 30 yr old pictures of Kerry. How is it any different?
My original post inthis thread said not one word about Bush. In case you haven't noticed, Kerry is not yet running against Bush, at the time of this message, he was running against seven other people and Bush is not on the Democrat ticket.

[Beelzebub]

Disrespect and criticism are two different words.

One can criticise the nation without disrespecting it.

Doesn't it depend on your stance?

Many nationalists do not like criticism of their country because they see it as disrespect.

[April]

Cocaine use huh? More conjecture. Why don't you provide proof?

As for the documents that you claim is proof that he was a AWOL for a year, which by the way, makes him a deserter, let me ask you this. Was one of those documents an Honorable Discharge? Deserters do not get those.

Get the regulations for the Guard and then get back with us.


My original post inthis thread said not one word about Bush. In case you haven't noticed, Kerry is not yet running against Bush, at the time of this message, he was running against seven other people and Bush is not on the Democrat ticket.



Yeah, Pris, that's real fair. Unless I was in the bathroom with Dubya when he shoved an eight ball up his nose, I can't prove it.

And, you're right, your post doesn't mention Bush. You'd rather attack his future opponents and find negative things to say about them than posting positive things about Bush.

So you'd rather give people reasons not to vote for Kerry instead of giving them reasons to re-elect Bush?

[April]

There IS no proof because Daddy covered it all up for him. And Jr is *really* good at dodging. All he'll say is that he hasn't used it "in the last 7 years".

[Prisoner]

Yeah, Pris, that's real fair. Unless I was in the bathroom with Dubya when he shoved an eight ball up his nose, I can't prove it.
Fair? You make an accusation that you have no proof of and when called out on it, you whine that it isn't fair to be asked to provide proof.

LOLOLOL Too funny.

And, you're right, your post doesn't mention Bush. You'd rather attack his future opponents and find negative things to say about them than posting positive things about Bush.
Why is it bad referencing a person's past, THAT HAPPENS TO BE FACTUAL? If you have something to add to the topic, then feel free. Make a claim that his picture doesn't disrespect the men who fought at Iwo Jima. But your shallow attack on Bush is nothing more than you trying to make a point that is irrelevant to the topic.


So you'd rather give people reasons not to vote for Kerry instead of giving them reasons to re-elect Bush?
Cat, kettle ring a bell? I have said plenty of good things about Bush. But this wasn't a topic about Bush.

It is too damn bad that moderators on a discussion board discourage discussions. Of course, this will be denied.

There IS no proof because Daddy covered it all up for him.
More conjecture. :rolleyes:

[April]

Pris, seriously, you make me want to bang my head on my desk.
My argument has no merit because I don't have proof that GWB snorted coke? You are so stubborn, I could produce a picture of him with a pile of white powder and a rolled up $100 bill in his nose and you'd argue that I had no proof that was cocaine.

I hate Bush, I don't trust him, and nothing you say will change that.

[Prisoner]

Pris, seriously, you make me want to bang my head on my desk.
You are so stubborn,
I hate Bush, I don't trust him, and nothing you say will change that.
Then you do not need to be on a debate site if you can't handle debating without your emotion of hatred getting in the way. You have been commenting for three pages now and have yet to debate the topic.

My argument has no merit because I don't have proof that GWB snorted coke?
You are right, you make up stories about someone using cocaine and you should not be surprised when someone demands that you provide proof.

I could produce a picture of him with a pile of white powder and a rolled up $100 bill in his nose and you'd argue that I had no proof that was cocaine.
The point is that you didn't.

In case you haven't heard, the retired General who made up the story of Bush, the person you hate being Awol, has once AGAIN, recanted his claim.
But of course, that will mean nothing to you so do not call me stubborn.

[Pops]

Dirty Tricks. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3493277.stm)
Interesting.

(Yanks. ;) )

[April]

Oh this country is far too gone to understand the concept of positive campaigning. Rather than show us what GOOD a candidate can do, they'd prefer to point out that someone had an affair umpteen years ago or participated in a protest against war. :rolleyes: